It was more than five years ago, in April 2014 that I featured The Other Two on the blog as part of a piece looking at the spin-off bands from New Order.

I made the observation that, of all the records the band members released in other guises, there was one almost flawless piece of electronic pop that should have been snapped up by all New Order fans:-

mp3 : The Other Two – Tasty Fish (12”)

Much to my delight, there was a very positive response to the posting with a number of my long-standing and most trusted contributors, including postpunkmonk, the robster and Echorich all adding their own appreciative comments on Stephen Morris and Gillian Gilbert’s debut single.

I was thinking just the other day as to why nothing more seemed to happen in the wake of the release of Tasty Fish, which in reaching #41 had come within a whisker of possibly providing the duo with a Top of the Pops appearance – something that would have been interesting as I can’t imagine Gillian would have wanted to sing live while Stephen would likely have been desperate to avoid miming.

Tasty Fish was released in October 1991 as FAC 329. The Factory catalogue has the self-titled debut album as FAC 330. Crucially, it indicates it is a test pressing with perhaps 5-10 copies in existence. In short, the album got held up as the label began to implode, with the last throw of the dice being to try and get Happy Mondays product completed and into the shops. In the end, an album that had been finished in the studio in mid-1991 did not see light of day until November 1993 when London Records provided a belated release, having preferred, understandably, to concentrate on promoting Republic, the latest album by New Order.

Gillian and Stephen must have been disappointed with the way things turned out as The Other Two and You , despite being a fine and enjoyable piece of work, wasn’t getting much love from the company bosses. It would have been quite different if Tony Wilson et al had still been in charge.

A single was lifted to help the promotional efforts:-

mp3 : The Other Two – Selfish

As was the case with so many of the New Order singles of the time, there were no new songs made available on the b-sides of the 7”, 12” and CD versions, but there were a number of remixes:-

mp3 : The Other Two – Selfish (That Pop Mix)
mp3 : The Other Two – Selfish (Junior Style Dub)
mp3 : The Other Two – Selfish (The East Village Vocal)
mp3 : The Other Two – Selfish (The East Village Dub)

The opening of That Pop Mix is reminiscent (to my ears) of Vanishing Point, one of the outstanding tracks on the 1989 album Technique.

The Junior Dub is more than nine minutes in length and was surely played in the clubs of Ibiza and the likes back in the day.

Selfish did very well, in the circumstances, to reach #46 in the singles chart.

The album failed to chart.



  1. “Selfish” even got a US CD5 release, which I used to have but the remixes were not anything to live or die by, and once I bought the limited mirrorcard UK CD of “The Other Two And You” I sold off the “Selfish” CD5, as well as the “Tasty Fish” UK CD5 I [think ] I also had. I enjoyed “The Other Two And You” as I found it to be the acme of the long break New Order “solo” projects. I certainly enjoyed it far more than the tracks I had heard from “Republic.” I never bothered with that album at all.

  2. Tasty Fish – named after a chip shop on the A6 just on the southern edge of Stockport town centre. I have many memories of getting my post-pub Holland’s Pie, chips and mushy peas from there both before, during and after the time of this release. I think it’s still there, but I rarely go to Stockport now having moved away some years ago.

  3. Farley & Heller did so many dubs at this time that all sound the same, how they got away with it is one of the unanswered clubland questions of the early 90s. I suppose it made it easy to mix them all in together.

    Like the Ashley Beedle dub though

  4. I have to agree, while the Junior Dub is certainly a floor sustainer, the East Village Dub takes the track on a real journey. It would have been interesting to have an full X-press2 remix of Selfish.
    As for Tasty Fish, if Republic had just has some of this track’s brightness, it would have been a much better album. The Pascal Gabriel remix finds some looks back to Bizarre Love Triangle and True Faith for some points of reference, and it’s just wonderful!

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