Category: Propaganda

aka The Vinyl Villain incorporating Sexy Loser

#080: Propaganda – ‘Jewel (Rough Cut)’ (Island/ZTT Records ’85)

Hello friends,

back to sunny Germany we go today, and way back in time as well: to 1985 in fact. I am sure there are some of you, after having recognised the picture above, that are now thinking: „hold on, why 1985 and not 1984: why this and not the wonderful ‘Dr. Mabuse‘?“. Well, first of all because, to be honest, I never really cared for ‘Dr. Mabuse’ all too much when it first came out. Maybe there was so much other great stuff in 1984 that I didn’t find the time to like it enough, but be honest: I forgot the reason.

But what I haven’t forgotten is how much I loved the follow-up to Mabuse, ‘Duel’! I loved the bass, I loved the voice, I loved everything this tune offered. I loved Susanne more than I loved Claudia, partly because the back cover of the 7“ explained that she ‘compels her boyfriend to do infamous things’, which was, let’s say, an attitude which I quite admired when dreaming of her. Also, she looked better than Claudia, I always thought …

Anyway. Quite some time passed on before a friend of mine gave me a soundboard mixtape from a local Indie club where her and me used to go to rather frequently, on it the DJ segued Soft Cell‘s ‘Martin’ into the B-Side of ‘Duel’ (but the 12“ version thereof), but this segue went on for more than a minute – brilliant! And after that he segued Propaganda into Einstürzende Neubauten‘s ‘Yü-Gung’, crossfading it equally long – genius!!

Now, I suppose this was the moment where I may have listened to Duel’s B-Side, ‘Jewel’, really closely, and two things I found out: a) it’s ace with its 3:39 minutes and in its „Rough Cut“ – comparison to ‘Duel’ and b) but the 12“, with 6:53 minutes, styled „Cut Rough“, is even better by a million miles!

Still, it’s 7“ singles here, but also, of course, the above sounds as if the ‘Rough Cut’ is somewhat shabby. It is not, promised, so give it a chance:

mp3: Propaganda – ‘Jewel’ (Rough Cut)

Great, right? I’m sure you agree. Consequently only one question remains: Claudia or Susanne?

Take care,

Dirk

A Secret Wish – Propaganda (1985)

This is one of those albums thay belatedly and perhaps unexpectedly sneaked its way into the Top 60.  It’s also fair to say that if the list had been compiled a few months back, it wouldn’t have made it.

It’s an album I played a great deal when it was released.  It had been preceded by two fabulous singles – Dr Mabuse and Duel.   I recall buying it with some of the money left over from my first ever salary at the end of July 1985, having just moved to Edinburgh to live and work.  I had a very small and inexpensive stereo system at the time, so I certainly didn’t get the full effect of its OTT production for a few more years.  It was one of those albums I had a habit of playing when I had come in from the pub but was too tired/pissed to have a dance around the room…..this was one for lying on the bed, trying to avoid the sensation of the room spinning out of control, and waving my hands around as if I was some kind of crazy German conductor.

A few years later, I ended up buying the CD version, which had a different running order from the vinyl, as well as having a couple of extended versions of the songs, and so it became the version more commonly played.

Indeed, it was only a couple of months back that I dug out the vinyl copy again after what will be more than 30 years, and that was to play it immediately after giving a spin to my newly acquired copy of the excellent The Heart Is Strange, the album released last year by X-Propaganda, the group formed by Claudia Brücken and Susanne Freytag.

It’s fair to say that my passion for A Secret Wish has been smouldering rather than burning brightly for a long time.  But it’s been on a healthy rotation in 2023, and as I said earlier, has unexpectedly crept into this rundown.

mp3: Propaganda – The Murder Of Love

Worth mentioning that the bass slapping on this one is courtesy of Derek Forbes, once of Simple Minds before they went all stadium rock on us.*

*Correction.  While Derek Forbes played live with Propaganda in 1985, and would be part of the group on later records, he didn’t actually contribute the bass parts on the debut.  With thanks to Post Punk Monk for the info……see comments section for more details.

JC

Most of today’s words come from a posting back in April 2015, along with some helpful and/or astute comments that were offered up at the time.

My first exposure to Propaganda came one night at the end of an episode of what by then was called Whistle Test, when a memorable pop promo for a song called Dr Mabuse was played out over the credits sometime around early 1984.

It turned out that this was to be the second single released on the ZTT label – the first being the amazingly successful Relax by Frankie Goes To Hollywood. I was immediately captivated by its charms – it was a big booming tune which offered something different each time you played it. Oh, and in co-vocalist Susanne Freytag, they had one of the most stunningly gorgeous women in the pop world.

The single was only a minor hit, peaking at #27, and with subsequent FGTH singles also being multi-million sellers, the relatively small ZTT had to put all its eggs into one basket, so Propaganda were left to one side for the best part of 12 months and it was April 1985 before the follow-up single Duel was released. For the rest of the year, the band enjoyed quite a high-profile, including a number of TV appearances, live gigs and the release of the debut LP A Secret Wish in July 1985.

I loved A Secret Wish. It was the sort of record I had imagined Simple Minds going onto make on the back of their earliest releases, instead of gravitating towards the stadium rock behemoths they were becoming. And it was no real surprise that the Propaganda who went out on tour featured the ex-Minds bassist Derek Forbes…..

Postpunkmonk, in response to Alex G mentioning that he had a non-standard version of the 7″ of Dr Mabuse, informed us that the single had been “a true game of chance; either the instrumental version or the vocal version was inserted randomly in sleeves and one wouldn’t know one’s fate until the disc was played.”

I don’t have a copy of the 7″, so once again will offer up two of the tracks from the 12″:-

mp3: Propaganda – Das Testaments Des Mabuse
mp3: Propaganda – Femme Fatale (The Woman With The Orchid)

I’ll leave the last word(s) to Echorich:-

Propaganda was, in my mind, the greatest achievement of ZTT. Dr. Mabuse is a single that, more than any other, exemplifies the label’s mission statement. It was a crystal production, had literary influence and strove to be post modern pop. A Secret Wish would build on this in an explosive way. Nothing else ZTT released ever had the same impact on me as this single and debut album.

JC

Back in July 2015, I wrote about Propaganda and their debut single Dr Mabuse, released in February 1984. The piece made passing reference to the fact that the follow-up single, Duel, didn’t get released until much later largely as a result of ZTT having to concentrate on the phenomena that was Frankie Goes To Hollywood. I always meant to do a follow-up posting but never quite got round to it until now.

Duel is a lovely bit of electro-pop that fitted in just perfectly with so many of the other musicians I was developing a love for in the mid-80s, and in particular Pet Shop Boys. There was also something quite erotic about the vocal delivery of Claudia Brucken, but visually it was the other female in the band – Susanne Freytag – who really did it for me. The band actually were on UK telly quite a bit around the time of Duel, including a couple of live songs that were aired on Whistle Test on BBC 2 during which they proved, as a live act, they could cut it, albeit there were some backing tapes involved. It was also interesting to see Derek Forbes, formerly of Simple Minds, making an important contribution to the live sound.

It turned out to be the band’s best-selling single in the UK reaching #21 in May 1985 but I always felt the group never got the success it really deserved as the media by now were setting out on a ZTT backlash, sick to the back teeth of FGTH, and arguing that their success was down to the production skills of Trevor Horn and Stephen Lipson and the hype-skills of Paul Morley rather than any talents the musicians might have.  It seemed to be implied that Propaganda were no different despite the fact that anyone who saw them perform on Whistle Test and indeed The Tube on Channel 4 would know these were bona-fide musicians and singers.

The band toured for much of 1985, promoting debut album A Secret Wish. A remix album was issued just before Christmas but the band were strangely absent throughout 1986 and out of the blue came the news that Claudia Brucken was leaving to pursue a solo career.  It turned out that the group had been taking legal action against ZTT as they were unhappy with the details of the recording contract and the label had counter-acted with action that prevented them going elsewhere.  The new-look group did get a move to Virgin Records in 1988 but without the sort of attention foisted on them when they first burst onto the scene,

The 7″ version of Duel appeared on the debut album:-

mp3 : Propaganda – Duel

The 12″ had an extended version along with an industrial version on its flip side:-

mp3 : Propaganda – Duel (Bittersweet version)
mp3 : Propaganda – Jewel (cut rough mix)

JC

My first exposure to Propaganda came one night at the end of an episode of what by then was called Whistle Test, when a memorable pop promo for a song called Dr Mabuse was played out over the credits sometime around early 1984.

It turned out that this was to be the second single released on the ZTT label – the first being the amazingly successful Relax by Frankie Goes To Hollywood. I was immediately captivated by its charms – it was a big booming tune that offered something different each time you played it. Oh and in co-vocalist Susanne Freytag, they had one of the most stunningly gorgeous women in the pop world.

The single was only a minor hit, peaking at #27, and with subsequent FGTH singles also being multi-million sellers, the relatively small ZTT had to put all its eggs into one basket, so Propaganda were left to one side for the best part of 12 months and it was April 1985 before the follow-up single Duel was released.

For the rest of the year, the band enjoyed quite a high-profile, including a number of TV appearances, live gigs and the release of the debut LP A Secret Wish in July 1985. Incidentally, the vinyl and CD versions of the album are very different – they were released some three months apart, and the CD has extended and slightly remixed versions of a number of the tracks.

I loved A Secret Wish. It was the sort of record I had imagined Simple Minds going onto make on the back of their earliest releases instead of gravitating towards the stadium rock behemoths they were becoming. And it was no real surprise that the Propaganda which went out on tour featured the ex-Minds bassist Derek Forbes…..

The debut single offered different versions on the 7″ and 12″. My 7″ copy has long gone – a victim of stupidity when all my 7″ singles were ‘lost’ in Edinburgh in 1986 but I do have the 12″ songs to offer up:-

mp3 : Propaganda – Das Testaments Des Mabuse
mp3 : Propaganda – Femme Fatale

Yup, another 80s band besotted by The Velvet Underground…..

Oh and there’s another version of Dr Mabuse also tucked away on the b-side, but it’s just a bit too industrial for my liking today.

Enjoy.